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In 1978 joined punk band 'WILFUL DAMAGE', toured the UK as support to hippy band 'HERE AND NOW' and various other new wave bands including 'The FALL'.
Re-opened the legendary Manchester club the 'Electric circus' supporting the 'DRONES', then did the last ever gig there before it closed down. In 1980 joined 'ACCIDENT ON THE EAST LANCS', mainly played the college and pub circuit around the north west, and again at the Deeply Vale Festival, in 1981 released a single 'Back End of Nowhere' and an LP 'Hotshots and Shotguns', reissued in 2005 on the German "Last Years Youth Records".
Also in 1981 co-formed 'The MARAUDERS' with 'CHRIS GEE', gigging with both bands untill the break up of 'ACCIDENT' in 82. In 86 for a short period co-Formed 'Dirty Work' with Chris Gee, John Brett, John Dickinson'.
Back with The Marauders recorded a session for the 'Paul Jones -Blues on Two', BBC 2 radio show, and shortly after released the 'Red Hot & Rocking' album.
In 1991 quit gigging until reforming 'The Marauders' in 1999, still gigging with The Marauders & Blues Blasters.